Comments on: Velocity, Structure and CloudCamp — A Cloud Computing Coming-Out Party http://www.appistry.com/blog/2008/07/velocity-structure-and-cloudcamp-a-cloud-computing-coming-out-party/ News and Ideas from Appistry on Appistry, Cloud Computing, Private Clouds and More Thu, 12 Aug 2010 16:47:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: sam http://www.appistry.com/blog/2008/07/velocity-structure-and-cloudcamp-a-cloud-computing-coming-out-party/comment-page-1/#comment-64 sam Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-64 Blip.tv has a bunch of <a href="http://velocityconference.blip.tv/#1034044">video from the Velocity conference</a> posted. (Found by way of <a href="http://blog.kunaufamily.org/">Timothy Kunau's blog</a>. Thanks!) Blip.tv has a bunch of video from the Velocity conference posted.

(Found by way of Timothy Kunau’s blog. Thanks!)

]]> By: Rick Parker http://www.appistry.com/blog/2008/07/velocity-structure-and-cloudcamp-a-cloud-computing-coming-out-party/comment-page-1/#comment-74 Rick Parker Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-74 Really curious where Jesse heard of this. I thought of this concept about 6 months ago while runnning Bedouin Networks, a startup to offer Virtual Clouds for small businesses a bit ahead of its time, started about 2 years ago. I just started a resource for this at cloudit.blogspot.com to help others with how to do this. My question here is what would be considered inexpensive? My answer is 3-5 racks of hardware max. A cookie cutter config that can be copied to 2 datacenters in the local area and 2 datacenters in a disaster recovery area. Why 2? so if one datacenter raises its prices you can move the virtual servers to DC2 move out of DC1 to less expensive DC3 and then move the previous DC1 servers to DC3. If you have all your servers in one big DC you have a lack of a negotiation position. The other idea is 100% virtualization of all components, routers, switches, servers, storage systems, monitoring systems, backups systems, etc and no servers in any offices. 100% virtulaization of all servers, domain controllers, email, file, etc. This can be done because I have done it. Small companies can virtualize across products or services, larger across divisions, etc Hope to hear feedback on this, Thanks, Rick Really curious where Jesse heard of this. I thought of this concept about 6 months ago while runnning Bedouin Networks, a startup to offer Virtual Clouds for small businesses a bit ahead of its time, started about 2 years ago. I just started a resource for this at cloudit.blogspot.com to help others with how to do this. My question here is what would be considered inexpensive? My answer is 3-5 racks of hardware max. A cookie cutter config that can be copied to 2 datacenters in the local area and 2 datacenters in a disaster recovery area. Why 2? so if one datacenter raises its prices you can move the virtual servers to DC2 move out of DC1 to less expensive DC3 and then move the previous DC1 servers to DC3. If you have all your servers in one big DC you have a lack of a negotiation position.

The other idea is 100% virtualization of all components, routers, switches, servers, storage systems, monitoring systems, backups systems, etc and no servers in any offices. 100% virtulaization of all servers, domain controllers, email, file, etc. This can be done because I have done it. Small companies can virtualize across products or services, larger across divisions, etc

Hope to hear feedback on this,

Thanks,
Rick

]]> By: Jesse Robbins http://www.appistry.com/blog/2008/07/velocity-structure-and-cloudcamp-a-cloud-computing-coming-out-party/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Jesse Robbins Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80 I'm really glad you enjoyed Velocity! @Rick Parker: I've been using the phrase "Redundant Array of Inexpensive Datacenters" to describe resilient systems design for years now, since at least 2004. I think I coined it. It is the building block of resilient design for modern web services, beginning with the assumption that "Failure Happens" and moves up from there. Good luck, your idea sounds like it is on the right track! -Jesse I’m really glad you enjoyed Velocity!

@Rick Parker: I’ve been using the phrase “Redundant Array of Inexpensive Datacenters” to describe resilient systems design for years now, since at least 2004. I think I coined it. It is the building block of resilient design for modern web services, beginning with the assumption that “Failure Happens” and moves up from there.

Good luck, your idea sounds like it is on the right track!

-Jesse

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